Pagoda SL Group

W113 Pagoda SL Group => Drive train, fuel, suspension, steering & brakes => Topic started by: waltklatt on October 17, 2009, 15:46:07

Title: Whats wrong with this picture? WOW!
Post by: waltklatt on October 17, 2009, 15:46:07
As you can imagine, laying under the front of the car on jackstands and the tires off.  Just poring over the work that needs to be done and you come across this scene.
I'll let you figure out the big mistake in the pictures. 
Hope you can spot them.
Walter
1967 220SL-diesel
1970 280SL-undergoing restoration for a friend.
Title: Re: Whats wrong with this picture? WOW!
Post by: Atazman on October 17, 2009, 16:01:52
I see.....(1) brake bleeders on the bottom (calipers on wrong side?); (2) spring clip missing on one caliper; (3) sway bar not connected on one side.  I'll bet there are more ........
Title: Re: Whats wrong with this picture? WOW!
Post by: ja17 on October 17, 2009, 17:18:18
Yes, those calipers are on the wrong side.  Impossible to bleed with the bleed screws on the bottom.  Looks like the cotter pins could be missing on the lower trunion castle nuts also. 

Also by the looks of the redish rust residue around the upper link pins, you probably have some serious wear on those upper king pin assembleis. 
Title: Re: Whats wrong with this picture? WOW!
Post by: Dash808 on October 17, 2009, 22:45:35
And the exhaust seems to be dragging  ;)
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Post by: glenn on October 18, 2009, 00:23:39
Silly, silly, boys!  He topped off his brake system with 'heavy air'.  Reminds me of the time I saw Buzz Aldrin put hinge pins in from the bottom.  Can't remember whether it was before or after he was on the moon.   If the PO could do that to the brakes(breaks), imagine how the fuel relays/solenoids, etc are buggered.   
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Post by: Dash808 on October 18, 2009, 11:50:55
Reminds me of the time I saw Buzz Aldrin put hinge pins in from the bottom.  

If you're John Glenn can I have your autograph?   Thanks!  ;D
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Post by: Larry & Norma on October 18, 2009, 19:00:38
My Haynes manual says 'never put support under the front suspension' only the crossmember. Do I get a prize ;) :D
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Post by: geezer on October 19, 2009, 10:54:29
Yep the biggest problem is the placement of the jack stands.
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Post by: knockmacool on October 19, 2009, 13:13:36
Could it be that "You have mail"  :o  ;D next to your spare battery?
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Post by: glenn on October 19, 2009, 17:14:54
That's the breaks.   The brakes worked fine on the jack stands. ..  And the brake drains worked fine, too.  Guy was a grad of ITT auto institute.
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Post by: waqas on October 19, 2009, 18:38:03
Nothing wrong with placing jack-stands under A-arms. I've been doing that for years, although I usually place mine directly under the springs.
Title: Re: Whats wrong with this picture? WOW!
Post by: waltklatt on October 20, 2009, 13:11:46
Thanks all for your replies.  
Everyone is a winner.
Jack stands under the shock support plates is what I like to do as the car is more sturdy.  
Gives me the road stance position for the lines and everything.
Indeed the calipers were installed incorrectly, king pins are worn out (drivers was replaced at one time), no grease in them, cotter pins missing.
Various washers, spacers, connectors missing.  Loose connections.
Big one is the calipers were rebuilt by a nincompoop, and lost three of the eight bolts holding the halves together.
And replaced with two that are too long and third gone altogether.  
Horns were also boken off at the tabs and only one was installed-a cheapo meek one.
Now all the work has been corrected and horns installed onto the front cross member straps(not drilled but clamped).
Now onto the rest of the car.
Walter
1967 220SL-diesel
1970 280SL-undergoing restoration
Title: Re: Whats wrong with this picture? WOW!
Post by: glenn on October 20, 2009, 20:40:19
Walt, How's the fuel management(relays, solenoids, etc) wired?
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Post by: waltklatt on October 21, 2009, 13:24:45
Glenn, Fuel management system is ok, as I tested it with the starter fluid in the intake line.
Wants to run and dies as soon as the fluid is exhausted.
I put gas into the tank and a rebuilt pump and some new hoses.
Engine runs but you have to pump the accellerator to keep it going.
Now has a new tank and havent put new gas in yet.
But will do soon.
Need to install the A/C condensor and new water pump, prior to running the engine.
All the electrics are now fixed after lots of fiddling and a few blown fuses.
Some shorts and some parted wires along the way.
Got all the dash lights and all the exterior lights to work again.
Thanks,
Walter
1967 220SL-diesel
1970 280SL-undergoing restoration for a friend