Pagoda SL Group
W113 Pagoda SL Group => Photo Gallery => Topic started by: Drewtee on April 10, 2010, 18:31:14
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Pics of this car may already of been circulated but i couldn't find a link. This car was at Essen this year for 150000 Euro. The discription said it had a 5 speed but the gear knob was from a 4 speed. Not convinced it is the best choice of colour!
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3 more..
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and finally...
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I am convinced it's not the best choice of colour. Terrible.
Engine bay looks nice from what I can see on my laptop screen.
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We have/had a member that had a yellow Pagoda. He nicknamed it "Tweety".
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they will see you coming from a mile away! Having had a yellow car once in my lifetime, i would say it's an aquired taste , not for everyone but I think it looks greAt!
There is a paler version yellow of the r107 that I think looks good, and generally a bargin when resold! hmm
rob
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I am not sure whether a Pagoda was ever available for purchase in yellow - there is no paint code listed in the our technical manual - but M-B produced a yellow/orange one in the late 60s for extensive safety tests with different paints. It is quite well described in the book "Faszination SL - W113". Here is a scan showing the 280SL that was used. The car in Essen looks a bit mor lemon-yellow but Tweety was quite similar to this test car.
[As an aside, when I look at this picture in the book I always wonder whether the publisher (MB) realized that it is also an advertising for FIAT. :)]
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I sold cars to get through school and off and on while trying to be... an artist shall we say. :-\ I worked at a Ford and Nissan dealership. Our order manager was crazy for brown, any color that seemed to look brown and in every concievable two tone combination. What an ordeal it was selling those things, dozens and dozens of brown trucks and tbirds and z cars. But as salesmen say, "there is a butt for every seat". Now you take this yella car... well the yellow has a little too much green in it...knock it down/mellow it out a bit and put a cognac interior in and it would look great. If I could afford it, well lets take her for a spin. But I suppose my opinion is to be taken lightly as I have a 542 dark red or is it brown SL. Hey the price was right.
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This car is listed at 150 K EURO... that's over $200K! How about that for values... And this car isn't even offered by the MB Classic Center, never known for shy pricing, but by Stickel. Reputable, but is that worth the price?
It should have been painted GOLD instead of yellow at that price!
Peter
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I noticed there is no radio. Maybe the cost of buying one took the restoration budget over the top. The price could maybe include one with an MP3? That way one could hook up an ipod that plays subliminal soothing messages to offset the bright color that might otherwise trigger a fight or flight response ;D ;D ;D
I haven't seen it so I really cannot judge, but surely its in fantastic shape, which the pictures obviously indicate.
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The radio deletion plate can cost more than a radio. That might be why such a high price.
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......it would drive me bunkers looking at THAT yellow dashboard while driving....
CHEERS !
WITT !
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"Tweety" was a much nicer shade of yellow...
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Reaching for the sunglasses and Advil...
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Jeez, that's a bit too yellow for me... ;D
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I am not sure whether a Pagoda was ever available for purchase in yellow - there is no paint code listed in the our technical manual - but M-B produced a yellow/orange one in the late 60s for extensive safety tests with different paints. It is quite well described in the book "Faszination SL - W113". Here is a scan showing the 280SL that was used. The car in Essen looks a bit mor lemon-yellow but Tweety was quite similar to this test car.
[As an aside, when I look at this picture in the book I always wonder whether the publisher (MB) realized that it is also an advertising for FIAT. :)]
I'd also never seen a yellow Pagoda before.
But at techno Classica, i looked at the Paint number, and it matched with the yellow on the pagoda, so I do think it was possible. Or he made a plate with the new paint code.
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Here it is
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Here is a photo that Gerard Wuisman posted on the German site indicating that it is painted in code 378 (sun yellow). The color may look better than it appears in these photos taken with a flash.
Jonny B. what do you know about this paint code?
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and here is a bad picture of the Vin plate taken on my mobile
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Wow - 000123 is a really early number.
Maybe they offered this color until they actually saw it in the flesh...
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I searched through my color chip books, and found no listing for DB 378. All the listings around that number are blue shades. I would stick my neck out a bit and say that DB 378 would not have been a yellow shade, some of the color families tended to be in the same run of numbers. For example, most (but not all, I grant you) of the reds run in the 500's.
The only listings for anything close to was DB 624 - yellow, DB 630 (early color) - yellow or DB673 - Sahara yellow, more of a mustard tone, DB 680 heliosgelb and one color chip of DB 1223 verkehrsgelb (this one is close) and is listed as a 1986 color in my Glasurit book.
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Yuk on the color....some cars (Porsche 911) look good in yellow. I do not think an SL is one of those cars. I think a color that is not often seeing but looks great with all that chrome...is black.
IMHO
abe
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Looks like something that escaped a crash test...
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Looks like something that escaped a crash test...
Test Car?
naj
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....some cars (Porsche 911) look good in yellow. I do not think an SL is one of those cars.
IMHO
abe
Speed Yellow?
naj
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naj
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:o I just threw up
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Naj,
One of those two is not so nice, but I sure like the color combo on the other one. ;D ;D
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For 150K euro I'd like to have the original (or a replacement like the original...) windscreen and steering wheel at least!
P.S. but is possible they'll find someone who could think to buy it a taxi roadster?
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ON SPEED i think
Reg
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On Sat Morning at Essen I had a brief chance to talk to Joachim Stickel about his Tweety-yellow Pagoda.
He was very pleasant and kindly willing to answer my requests.
This is (as you have already realised) a quite early 230 SL with VIN 000123.
The car was originally not Tweety-yellow or something like that. However, the car had a special paint code anyway (copper like or so), Joachim Stickel told me.
The car was completely scrap and was basically built up to new from nothing. So, that should be an excuse for many things you personally dislike on this one.
J. Stickel restored and "repainted" the car as a sort of "eye catcher". He is basically aware that it will not sell for € 150 K but as often with top class restoration shops (Joachim Stickel is, see www.pagoden-center.de; there is an English access as well) these "prices" are a signal for the future.... I think.
Generally Pagodas are a bit more expensive in Europe than in the US and consider please, motorinvestments.com or comparable top class shops in the US also offer (and obviously sell) their best ones in the $$ 100'000 region and beyond.
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It's the first time I saw a yellow pagoda. Although, I was thinking before what would a yellow pagoda looks like. So, here it is... :-X
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I think it is absolutely beautiful. i have a yellow Maserati Bora...and the color makes it quite unique...
How about the racing corvettes? Yellow...
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I like the color myself, although I am not sure I would actually buy it.
It is my favorite color for several cars: Ferrari 365 GTB and the Acura NSX, among others.
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I would have never thought of yellow on a Pagoda until seeing this one. I actually like it! I think many are judging negatively because its not an original color and its so unusual.
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it's got my vote. I have seen a couple of paler yellow r107 that I thought of buying once upon a time. I think the unique-ness and it stands out from that crowd that little bit more than our fabulous cars already do!
rob
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I met 'Tweety's' owner in AZ or NM about five years ago. He had it for sale. Was that Tweety in Essen?
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I must say I really like that yellow on that SL. I think it would look better with a tan or brown interior. My first car ever (when I was 16) was a Lotus Elan, which I painted a yellow very close to this shade, which was a Corvette colour code. It looked much better in person than in photos, and is a very small car so there is a lot less yellow. I also balanced the yellow with black bumpers and black wheel centers (with silver rims). It had a black interior and roof. It sold VERY quickly when I advertised it. Yellow is a very popular colour for Lotus, maybe the most popular for Elans. I would love to have it back again, to park beside my blue Lotus Elan and 906 blue 280SL. Does anyone else out there have a yellow 230-280SL?
Yuk on the color....some cars (Porsche 911) look good in yellow. I do not think an SL is one of those cars. I think a color that is not often seeing but looks great with all that chrome...is black.
IMHO
abe
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I have a colour listing that names 680 as "sun yellow". There are at least 5 different yellows in the "600's" of the Mercedes colour codes. 606 maple yellow, 618 mimosa yellow, 673 sahara yellow, 680 sun yellow, 691 light yellow. I haven't yet found 378 but I would be very surprised if it is not a blue.
I searched through my color chip books, and found no listing for DB 378. All the listings around that number are blue shades. I would stick my neck out a bit and say that DB 378 would not have been a yellow shade, some of the color families tended to be in the same run of numbers. For example, most (but not all, I grant you) of the reds run in the 500's.
The only listings for anything close to was DB 624 - yellow, DB 630 (early color) - yellow or DB673 - Sahara yellow, more of a mustard tone, DB 680 heliosgelb and one color chip of DB 1223 verkehrsgelb (this one is close) and is listed as a 1986 color in my Glasurit book.