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W113 Pagoda SL Group => Drive train, fuel, suspension, steering & brakes => Topic started by: Nickw on May 02, 2022, 18:36:46

Title: Cracked oil filter canister
Post by: Nickw on May 02, 2022, 18:36:46
(http://) hey everyone I crack my Oil Filter Canister a little do you think it will have a affect to the oil if it’s a little cracked? Or would
I have to get a new one?
Title: Re: Cracked oil filter canister
Post by: mdsalemi on May 02, 2022, 18:59:58
Hi Nick,

In the perfect world, you are going to want to replace it.

However, as a stop-gap measure, you may be able to seal up the crack with epoxy or JB-Weld. You are going to need to thoroughly degrease and clean the area so that the material will stick.
There's a product called Hy-Poxy H-450 Alumabond epoxy made specifically for such things. It's worth a try.
I think cleanliness will be the key in making this work.
Title: Re: Cracked oil filter canister
Post by: Benz Dr. on May 02, 2022, 19:07:22
That canister is scrap now and not easily repairable. Looks like someone installed two O-rings in there which will make them crack every time.
Title: Re: Cracked oil filter canister
Post by: john.mancini on May 02, 2022, 20:17:08
Replace it as soon as you can.
Title: Re: Cracked oil filter canister
Post by: Tomnistuff on May 02, 2022, 22:44:43
Or spend a few bucks for a 190SL group Spin-on Oil Filter Adapter.  I love mine, and no o-rings or center bolt to leak like a sieve during oil changes.  Quick and easy and a lot cleaner.

However, it's not original and would probably lose you a few points in a concours d'elegance.

My favorite vintage car phrase applies, I'm a purist, but not a masochist.

Tom Kizer
Title: Re: Cracked oil filter canister
Post by: thomas wright on May 03, 2022, 19:59:08
As a stop-gap until you decide to replace it  I would use a large diameter hose clip, Jubilee type, as this will also hold the fractured piece in place.
Suggest putting the clip on the canister first and then offering up to the engine .

Good luck.
Title: Re: Cracked oil filter canister
Post by: Kevkeller on May 03, 2022, 21:37:15
Can you tell what it’s made of?  Maybe a welder/machine shop can do a repair.
Title: Re: Cracked oil filter canister
Post by: Benz Dr. on May 04, 2022, 02:04:02
It's die cast aluminum and it's not worth trying to fix. The spin on filter is less than half the size of the cartridge filter and seems small for an engine with 6 liters of oil.

I have a spare casting if you need one. You will need to get seals for it.
Title: Re: Cracked oil filter canister
Post by: dirkbalter on May 04, 2022, 03:33:52
My engine rebuilder advised me that it is important that the housing has a good lower seal as it is almost impossible to change it.
He actually gave my a housing back with the statement that it is "junk"
Title: Re: Cracked oil filter canister
Post by: Cees Klumper on May 04, 2022, 03:41:15
Dirk - I recall replacing the lower seal at least once, it is do-able. As I recall, I had to remove a sort of 'hat' at the bottom with a pick, then I could swap the seal, then press the 'hat' back on. That's my recollection anyway, probably around 15 years ago I did this.
Title: Re: Cracked oil filter canister
Post by: dirkbalter on May 04, 2022, 03:48:16
Cees, I have no done or attempted to do it. Metric gave me a new one and did not want to deal with that.
Let me change my statement from "almost impossible" to "tricky". lol.
Title: Re: Cracked oil filter canister
Post by: ja17 on May 04, 2022, 03:54:53
The bottom seal is replaceable. The metal retainer ring is pressed on and can be removed. The metal retainer ring is missing on the filter in your picture. Buy the canister from Dan. Maybe he will install the new seals for you?
Title: Re: Cracked oil filter canister
Post by: Benz Dr. on May 04, 2022, 06:42:21
The hat part is available as a separate part. The trick is to use a new one because they don't seem to be reusable.
Title: Re: Cracked oil filter canister
Post by: WRe on May 04, 2022, 07:37:31
Hi,
the bottom seal can be replaced easily by pushing the metal retainer ring from outside of the canister because there is a tiny rim where you can put a screwdriver in place.
...WRe
Title: Re: Cracked oil filter canister
Post by: TJMart on May 04, 2022, 19:36:58
It would be better to replace it. Here is a link to a new one. In case you damage the "hat" when removing or replacing it they also sell it but I could not locate it. Give George a call.

https://www.authenticclassics.com/Mercedes-Engine-Oil-Filter-Housing-p/auth-003520.htm (https://www.authenticclassics.com/Mercedes-Engine-Oil-Filter-Housing-p/auth-003520.htm)

Tony
Title: Re: Cracked oil filter canister
Post by: Jordan on May 04, 2022, 21:00:32
The spin on filter is less than half the size of the cartridge filter and seems small for an engine with 6 liters of oil.

Hey Dan, the early 911's use a spin on filter and they use 9 litres of oil.  You know the old saying, "Its not how big it is, it's how you use it."  ;)
Title: Re: Cracked oil filter canister
Post by: Nickw on May 08, 2022, 04:00:41
I’m sorry for the late response I been very busy’ but I want to say thank you guys for all you response’s and help guys god bless yous!

Ps I’m not to good about leaving massages and post so I hope I’m doing this right 😋

Thanks…
Title: Re: Cracked oil filter canister
Post by: MikeSimon on May 08, 2022, 21:11:10
Hey Dan, the early 911's use a spin on filter and they use 9 litres of oil.  You know the old saying, "Its not how big it is, it's how you use it."  ;)

Do not want to argue with that, but my 1971 914-6 with a 1974 2.7 flat six has a 16 quart oil capacity.
Title: Re: Cracked oil filter canister
Post by: Benz Dr. on August 02, 2022, 15:27:54
Hey Dan, the early 911's use a spin on filter and they use 9 litres of oil.  You know the old saying, "Its not how big it is, it's how you use it."  ;)


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