Pagoda SL Group

W113 Pagoda SL Group => Body, interior, paint, chrome, and cosmetic items => Topic started by: Rahul on March 23, 2021, 19:59:35

Title: Window crank handle and knob
Post by: Rahul on March 23, 2021, 19:59:35

The black plastic knob at the end of one of my window cranks keeps coming off. I have tried to use epoxy to reattach it to the pin, but it doesn't want to hold.

Any tips/suggestions on how to repair this, or is it easier to just replace the crank handle?

Thanks

Title: Re: Window crank handle and knob
Post by: FresnoBob on March 23, 2021, 20:14:20

I too have struggled with this.  I was able to buy 280 style handles for my 230, but I never found the 230 type.  I don't believe the replacement handles are that expensive.

Title: Re: Window crank handle and knob
Post by: wjsvb on March 23, 2021, 23:33:19

Handles from a "Heckflosse" or fintail Mercedes from 1959 to 1965 may work.  Also, you might ask "scoot", a member here, who knows them well!

Title: Re: Window crank handle and knob
Post by: mrfatboy on March 23, 2021, 23:53:06

https://www.ebay.com/itm/121181492192

Title: Re: Window crank handle and knob
Post by: DaveB on March 24, 2021, 00:38:52

Quote from: mrfatboy on March 23, 2021, 23:53:06

https://www.ebay.com/itm/121181492192

That item is the 280 style but he's also selling the early version:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/120827245169

Title: Re: Window crank handle and knob
Post by: Rahul on March 24, 2021, 00:49:11

Thanks for the replies, I did see those advertised on ebay but they seemed slightly different to the original so I wasn't sure if they were a match. Specifically, the lower/smaller hole in the main body of the handle looked to be a different shape to the rectangular cutout in the original.

Title: Re: Window crank handle and knob
Post by: mrfatboy on March 24, 2021, 01:59:06

I believe that there are two versions of the later style crank. This crank is designed to work for both with slight modification. 

Title: Re: Window crank handle and knob
Post by: scoot on March 24, 2021, 15:47:12

I have nice original cranks available.  There are three styles of cranks available.  The earliest is the one with the small knob.  The middle style is the SAME except has a big knob, the later looks like the middle one but is held in by a clip in the crank insert instead of a small screw.   Pics attached.

Title: Re: Window crank handle and knob
Post by: 66andBlue on March 24, 2021, 19:34:27

Excellent photos and explanation, Scott.
Please add it to the technical manual.

Title: Re: Window crank handle and knob
Post by: stickandrudderman on April 21, 2022, 16:46:55

Scoot,
Do you have a Mercedes part number for version 3 in your photo?
I don't mean the replacement 123 part, I mean that actual part.
I'm having a tidy up and found one of these but need to know the part number so I can put it on my system.
Thanks

Title: Re: Window crank handle and knob
Post by: scoot on April 21, 2022, 17:01:58

Quote from: stickandrudderman on April 21, 2022, 16:46:55

Scoot,
Do you have a Mercedes part number for version 3 in your photo?
I don't mean the replacement 123 part, I mean that actual part.
I'm having a tidy up and found one of these but need to know the part number so I can put it on my system.
Thanks

Sorry, absolutely no idea what the part number is. 

Title: Re: Window crank handle and knob
Post by: mdsalemi on April 21, 2022, 18:07:48

As an FYI the part number(s) might not be entirely accurate. I have ran into this before on other parts, where later or substitutes were made and a part number changed...

Title: Re: Window crank handle and knob
Post by: stickandrudderman on April 22, 2022, 09:04:41

Which is precisely why I'm looking for the part number for THAT part, not the replacement.
I've narrowed it down to either 1087600102 or 1087600202

Title: Re: Window crank handle and knob
Post by: Pawel66 on April 22, 2022, 18:41:41

Stick, the PN  A1087600202 does not exist any more (not recognized). I think it was quickly replaced with A 123 760 01 02. The Service Brochure (attached) states the A 108 760 02 02 number as the new shaft version, but then the number disappears form the systems and the A 123 760 01 02 stays.

Looks like the PN A 108 760 02 02 was wiped out form digital history and may exist in paper versions of parts lists only. I have no idea if this wipe out was intentional or not, but while doing that, Daimler messed up a bit descriptions of parts versions and one stage there is missing for new shaft/old (Pagoda) knob style, creating the PN A 123 760 01 02 having two knob styles.

I tried to put together what I think in the pdf. The part A 123 760 0102 started as part A 108 760 02 02 with Pagoda style knob and carried the Pagoda style knob to R107 becoming A 123 760 01 02 somewhere on the way.

So for later shaft type, PN is A 123 760 01 02 now, used to be A 108 760 02 02.

Title: Re: Window crank handle and knob
Post by: stickandrudderman on April 23, 2022, 14:51:29

Thanks Pawel.
I spoke to my dealer and asked him to check all preceeding part numbers which is only possible on main dealer EPC, not the licenced version.
This is how I arrived at the part number 108 760 02 02 which is "Version 3" of the crank handle.
As I keep a large inventory of used parts it's important for me to be able to enter them on my stock system by accurate part number. This is so when I'm looking for a particular handle I know which one I'm looking for and where to find it.

Title: Re: Window crank handle and knob
Post by: Pawel66 on April 23, 2022, 15:11:53

Ok, so this PN is there somewhere - good news!