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Original interior?
« on: December 21, 2015, 20:24:20 »
Is this interior original??
This is the original colour on the Data Card (114 - natural 2401 interior, brown 6454 carpet and option code 401 "interior trimming in leather"). I assumed it was re done but now I am not too sure.
March 1964 230SL, manual, Australian delivered RHD
Thanks for any help...
Col

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Re: Original interior?
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2015, 20:42:04 »
dash...
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Re: Original interior?
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2015, 20:46:17 »
and the doors and seats ...
Col

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Re: Original interior?
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2015, 23:17:28 »
I will give you my thoughts.  My car was also 114 Natural when I got it and I know it was the original interior.  Your top dash roll has been re-done in my opinion.  There should be no seams on the front of the top that are clearly visible.  Further the wood looks different as well.  The color is close but it may be your pictures.  They no longer make the 114 Natural interior that I was able to find.

The carpet is also interesting in that the carpet in mine over the hump in the front closely resembles yours.  The seats appear to me to have been re-done.  The doors also appear re-done.

Overall the color is lighter than mine and I will let others with more knowledge comment but I believe someone attempted to closely match the original.  Let's see what others say.

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Re: Original interior?
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2015, 23:30:38 »
Quote from: DickLewis
I will give you my thoughts.../..
I support your analysis, Dick
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Re: Original interior?
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2015, 09:10:29 »
I don't see anything that looks original. (I also have a 114 car).

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Re: Original interior?
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2015, 11:11:52 »
I pulled all the interior out today to remove some rust and I have found some original carpet that is different to the one in the picture. I've kept a bit but forgot to take a photo. So that pretty much confirms there is not much original left in the interior.
Thanks for everyone's input.
Col

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Re: Original interior?
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2015, 17:33:46 »
I also concur that most of the interior has been redone.
Also the door panels look very close to originals, possibly recolored to match the new seat and dash covers.
Wood is not original as the end that leads to the A post is not tapered like the original.
Dont think they had green foam for the seats back them(seen in the split).
However the carpet tunnel may be original, but definitely keep the shifter boot ring.  
That is an original and NLA.
If getting a new carpet set, transfer that ring to the new set.

Also, not sure if there should be a scuff pad on the gas (clutch) pedal area on RHD cars.  I know there is on the LHD cars.

My .02 cents, if it's worth anything.

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Re: Original interior?
« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2015, 20:45:59 »
I would have replied earlier but was away for Xmas.  Interesting interior that looks very like my 230SL did before I restored it, both in the carpet and leather seats. Assuming it was an Aust delivered car, I suspect there was someone in Australia doing interiors and both yours and mine were done by the same company as my seats and carpet were almost identical to what you had.

 If you want to have a look at a KHM interior I am happy to show you my car if you want to PM me.

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Re: Original interior?
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2016, 23:15:41 »
As a side thing that clock looks like it is off an w114/W115......most likely part number 0005420711 or similar.

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« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2016, 17:31:21 »
About a year and a half ago i purchased a late 1967 250 SL from the estate of the original owner (11304310005167).  Since then I have got it into pretty good driveable condition.  I found what I thought was the data card with items numbered 1 through 19 which I have  deciphered from the information posted on the Pagoda web site(thank you.  I have seen several posts which refer to information from their data card which is not listed on mine.  Is there another additional data card for my car that I don't know about?  From what I have seen from posts on the Pagoda site there seems to be a place I can go to to get another copy, or a more detailed data sheet, for my car.  What is the name of the place to get this information.  TIA.
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Re: Original interior?
« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2016, 17:45:16 »
You need to e-mail the Classic Center in Irvine, CA and request a copy of the data card. They will want proof of ownership with your request (copy of registration or title). What you have may be just a copy of the upper portion of the data card. Is it a long thin strip of paper? These were used on the assembly line for various departments.
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« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2016, 20:41:00 »
What I'm referring to is a 3" X 7" piece of paper with item number 1 listed as Fahrzeug-Daten in bold face.  I'll contact the Classic Center if you think they can provide more data than is on this piece of paper.  As I said it goes through items numbered 1-18.  TIA
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Re: Original interior?
« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2016, 20:51:06 »
Mike,
have looked already at our technical manual and what is available there?
It appears that you do have the data card for your car. Compare what you have with what is shown here:
http://www.sl113.org/wiki/DataCard/DataCards
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Re: Original interior?
« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2016, 21:14:25 »
Mike, yes as Alfred stated. That is the Data card. The only other info you might want to obtain is the build sheet for your vin number range. It goes into more depth about interior and trim options and colors. What was paired with what.
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1936 Ford PU Flathead V8. Creme on tan interior.
1989 Volkswagen T3 Westfailia Campmobile. Dove Grey (blue)

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« Reply #15 on: February 10, 2016, 18:23:26 »
Ok, Y'all (i'm in Florida so I can use that word), it looks like most of the information I was seeing on the posts that wasn't on my data card was from the build sheet which I don't have and didn't know existed.  I'll contact the Classic Center and see if they can come up with a build sheet for my car.  Thanks for all the help.
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Re: Original interior?
« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2016, 19:02:53 »
Mike, just so your aware, a build sheet never came with the car. Only the data card.
1968 (67) 250sl. 4 speed manual. DB180 Silver
1955 220 Cabriolet A. White Grey
2019 E450 Wagon. Majestic Blue
1936 Ford PU Flathead V8. Creme on tan interior.
1989 Volkswagen T3 Westfailia Campmobile. Dove Grey (blue)