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chatntoo

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Painting mask for hubcaps
« on: November 20, 2014, 15:20:36 »
Restoring a 1971 280sl with full size hubcaps and will need a painting mask for the hubcaps if someone has one or knows where I can find one...thanks.

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Re: Painting mask for 280sl hubcaps
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2014, 22:18:13 »
The Group has one that passes around between the Full Members only.  As it happens I have it at the moment and will be done in a couple of weeks.  I am then passing it to another member in the USA who in turn would pass it to you.  The rules that have been working is that who ever has it is responsible for postage to the next member.

Send me a PM reminder and I will pass the name on to you for the next move.

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Re: Painting mask for 280sl hubcaps
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2014, 03:21:32 »
Or do this...

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Re: Painting mask for 280sl hubcaps
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2014, 03:42:36 »
Using tape is not that big of a deal, about 30 minutes a cap. Using flexible blue auto masking tape (not the 3M house painting blue tape) makes the curves reasonably easy to do. The 1/4" tape is exactly right for the circle bump around the star. The lines are crisper, but I will concede that is not how the factory ones look.
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Re: Painting mask for 280sl hubcaps
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2014, 19:41:03 »
Thanks Gary : Let me know when I am next and give me the name and address of the person I am supposed to contact for the painting mask.

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Pagoda Group Members Hub Cap Stencil
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2014, 03:36:45 »
I had another member waiting on me for the Hub Caps Stencil but also last contact indicated that they may use masking.. 

 I have lost the contact for that person so if they read this can they contact me by PM in the next couple of days if they want the Stencil.

Otherwise, I will send on to Davidl later next week as I have now completed my caps.  If they then still want them then David can forward on.

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1972 MB 280CE Auto RHD 906G Blue Grey
2005 MB A200.
2006 MB B200
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Re: Painting mask for hubcaps
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2014, 03:51:46 »
I didn't know about the group stencil.  Is there one for the smaller early hubcaps?  I'm about to attack mine.
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Re: Painting mask for hubcaps
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2014, 04:37:32 »
It was a stencil donated by a member several years ago after he had done his caps and it has been floating around the world between members.

You are able to use it, the only requirement is that it is your responsibility to advertise available on the Forum and to post it to the next member where ever he/she may be in the world.  A bit of pot luck on the postage.  I am sending it to USA next and as far as I know David, below post, is to be the next person unless I have adivce from another who has got lost in the fog.

Have just completed mine last night for my 230 in 350G.
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1965 MB 230SL Auto RHD Lt Blue 334G, Top 350H, 213 Leather, Tourist Delivery.
1972 MB 280CE Auto RHD 906G Blue Grey
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2006 MB B200
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Re: Painting mask for hubcaps
« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2014, 00:57:20 »
It's best to use fine line tape which as another forum member mentioned takes 30 minutes a rim. For those who are on facebook you can go on the Mercedes Classic Center page and see that even the classic center uses fine line tape rather than the stencil.

see pictures on :
https://www.facebook.com/MBClassicCenter/photos/pb.104225860829.-2207520000.1416790189./10153222237395830/?type=3&theater

Here are a few shots of a recent set I did for my 280SE coupe
« Last Edit: November 24, 2014, 01:01:23 by perry113 »
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Re: Painting mask for hubcaps
« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2014, 01:13:44 »
Yep,

Some like originality and the original look that is slightly fuzzy and some like the modern sharp lines.  Another example is the over spray in the wheels or underneath the car.

Bit like colour, everyone has a preference I guess, and there is no “best”

Meanwhile, stencil is on its way from Australia to John in Bolder CO and will then pass to David after that.

Garry
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Garry Marks
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1969 MB 280SL 5 speed RHD SOLD.
1965 MB 230SL Auto RHD Lt Blue 334G, Top 350H, 213 Leather, Tourist Delivery.
1972 MB 280CE Auto RHD 906G Blue Grey
2005 MB A200.
2006 MB B200
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Re: Painting mask for hubcaps
« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2014, 22:13:19 »
Hi David--

Please send it to me when you are finished.  The picture looks like it for the small cover, which is what I need.

Thanks,

The other Joe

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Re: Painting mask for hubcaps
« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2014, 00:58:12 »
I just finished my 250SL wheels the old fashioned way with the tape.  I think the result was very good.  I was told that the stencil does leave the result more fuzzy.

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Re: Painting mask for hubcaps
« Reply #12 on: December 26, 2014, 01:01:35 »
Here is the second set I did.  One set for when the hardtop is on and a second set for when the top is off.

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Re: Painting mask for hubcaps
« Reply #13 on: December 26, 2014, 01:18:12 »
They look nice and sharp but as I said in an earlier post, If you are going for originality then they dont cut it as the slightly fuzzy edges that a stencil gives cannot be reproduced with the taping method. ;)

In my case I am trying to get my car as close to original as possible and thus used the stencil for one set of hubcaps and have a second set that I have taped for use on the car when I regularly drive it. :D

I havent yet been able to reproduce the paint blowby on the wheels and under the car that some have gone to great lengths to do. :o
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1969 MB 280SL 5 speed RHD SOLD.
1965 MB 230SL Auto RHD Lt Blue 334G, Top 350H, 213 Leather, Tourist Delivery.
1972 MB 280CE Auto RHD 906G Blue Grey
2005 MB A200.
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Re: Painting mask for hubcaps
« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2014, 00:14:28 »
Masks are on their way to David Hay on Monday...then he will forward to the next in line within this Thread.

Happy Holidays.

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Re: Painting mask for hubcaps
« Reply #15 on: December 28, 2014, 02:59:48 »
The biggest problems with masking method, is you can get heavy paint build-up at the masking tape. The stencil prevents this. With the masking method, use just enough and not too much paint for best results.
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Re: Painting mask for hubcaps
« Reply #16 on: December 28, 2014, 03:55:27 »
Joe,

Do you run a sharp knife around the tape before removal?

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1965 MB 230SL Auto RHD Lt Blue 334G, Top 350H, 213 Leather, Tourist Delivery.
1972 MB 280CE Auto RHD 906G Blue Grey
2005 MB A200.
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Re: Painting mask for hubcaps
« Reply #17 on: December 29, 2014, 03:44:36 »
Garry,

When I did a couple of sets for a good friend of mine some years back, I was very careful to pull of the tape before it had dried too hard. The one thing that I remember needing to be very careful about was not touching the paint surface as I stripped the tape. I did not run a knife around the edges.
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Re: Painting mask for hubcaps
« Reply #18 on: December 30, 2014, 16:35:52 »
Have not received the painting mask yet and am not ready to paint as yet so send me your info and I will pass them along to you.
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Re: Painting mask for hubcaps
« Reply #19 on: December 30, 2014, 16:48:42 »
Masks are on their way to David Hay on Monday...then he will forward to the next in line within this Thread.

Happy Holidays.

John

Looks like PTOONER (Gerry) is next in line after David Hay..... then, IXLR8.

I have provided the contact email info for Gerry to David.   

Regards, John

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Re: Painting mask for hubcaps
« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2015, 19:28:53 »
I am done with the hubcap stencil for now. Think you are next in line. What is your address??

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Re: Painting mask for hubcaps
« Reply #21 on: January 07, 2015, 02:59:50 »
can I get on the list for the mask?  I am getting very frustrated trying to tape mine.   I'm getting good at stripping them of all the paint and polishing the edges though.

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Re: Painting mask for hubcaps
« Reply #22 on: January 07, 2015, 04:21:56 »
David,

How did it go with the painting.  Did you master the art with out too many tries and strip backs? :P

It does take a bit to get it right. Took me two hubcaps (dog dish type) that I stripped the paint off before I got it right.  I ended up taping the outer and used the stencil on the inner star.  I think the art is to not spray to thick a coat each time and to ensure it gets into each corner of the triangle on the star.

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1969 MB 280SL 5 speed RHD SOLD.
1965 MB 230SL Auto RHD Lt Blue 334G, Top 350H, 213 Leather, Tourist Delivery.
1972 MB 280CE Auto RHD 906G Blue Grey
2005 MB A200.
2006 MB B200
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Re: Painting mask for hubcaps
« Reply #23 on: January 14, 2015, 16:23:15 »
I sure could use the stencil also. Painted mine last night with tape. Paint came out great...

Need to be re-done, and I'm now an expert on stripping them.

How do I get in the list for the stensil also?

Thanks

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Re: Painting mask for hubcaps
« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2015, 02:19:14 »
Is this stencil metal or some type of foam?
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